This is a follow up to the DNS filtering article that I did where I compared Quad. Nine DNS filter, Cisco umbrella, open DNS, which I was actually you have a follow up article on that, because Cisco reshot makes I was in the wrong control panel. So I’ll leave links to the first article, the second article and, of course this is kind of the third article, but it’s also a bit more discussion on this topic to discuss, especially the conversation with DNS filter, so before we dive into that.
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This is really important because you don’t want a bunch of false positives, especially when you’re paying for the service. So finding a good feeds is honestly harder. They are a lot out there, both paid free feeds and a lot of them are not updated anymore, as evidenced by the feat. So they went through and started digging around in the feets, which is also they reached out to sands, and this is the posts right from that sands.
This is the website what it looks like now. This is the one I used in my article, and here is the response they have about Peter, sending them a message and saying yeah. This feeds really old and long and retained. Now this is a bigger issue, because actually a lot of these lists are no longer maintained on even the ones that things like pie, hole and PF blocker. I was digging around and realizing some of these lists haven’t up and updated in a long time and when, in the context of the testing I was doing, we’ve specifically are talking about malware.
That is a huge challenge, because malware is not like blocking some type of sync hold ads where the ad sites may not. Change is often the mail where your sites are changing extremely dynamically, which is one of the reasons I chose as a test, because it’s ultimately, what we want is blocking malware and blocking malware is just not an easy task, so they break down some of the discussion. How they look at things, how they looking get rid of false positives? I think this is worth your time to go through and read this up, so I’ll leave a link to this down below I tweeted it out earlier today and, like I said they have everything on here.
So absolutely this is a good read now related to. That is people that keep looking for some absolute decisiveness on this and in terms of all the paid services out there, because we’re not a user, we’re not directly paying DNS filter and I’m not paying Cisco umbrella for services. I can’t give you a really solid overall use case, I’m still researching and still digging into other methodologies. Well, those methodologies was, I signed up for the free feeds from alienvault and they referred to them as their pulse and they have like active malware threats and indicators are compromised, and this is also a discussion ongoing in my forum and I had spot-checked a few of These with DNS filter with Cisco umbrella – and I have my comments in there short answer – is certain number of threat feeds, and I think I have one of them.
I posted I didn’t want to just fill my forms up a lot of these links, but one of my posted some sites – sinkhole them some didn’t dns filter – did sinkhole it. Quad 19 called it at that time. When I was doing the test, the Cisco umbrella and the CloudFlare filtered, neither one of those actually filtered that address that was then it’s one of those things it’s about who’s, ingesting what feeds went.
So I will say overall, though, when you’re looking at the free side, not the paid services but the free side which in narrow scope when you’re trance that those up quad 9 clearly for all the free ones out there really ahead of it. I know everyone else is going to clamor on and asked me to test their filtering system, all the codes public. I don’t have time to run all these tests, but this is why I make all the code and everything’s public it’s in the write up and you can find that in the forum link down below so take the time to read that response from DNS filter is Good, it’s concise, take your time to look at quad 9.
If you’re going, I just want a free service to drop in and set up at my mom’s house, my dad’s house or whatever friends you want just for some basic filtering for home. I’r going to save you that quad nines are probably one of the best ones out there in terms of free services, but let’s take that word free and look at it. Real quick – and I want to mention that I said free service, but they do have a donate button because they literally run a nonprofit organization that cares about privacy, which means, without selling your data.
You can’t get that free service where you’re the product. This is a run by donations, type of free service, so, as we all know, nothing’s really free. If you can take the time and I’ll throw a little money at them myself that you have a donate button up at the top for quad 9. I also want to thank them greatly for constantly posting. The forum’s they’ve been really helpful, as well as DNS filter. Both of those companies have engaged with the community, which also that shows me they care about their product a lot both the free service, quad, nine and DNS filter like DNS filter.
Having the you know, chief tech guy reach out to me and have a good conversation, while they’re cofounders great conversation, taking the time to write a nice, well-written, blog post with links and thoughts on it. That’s what I like to see this is the type of community engagement that well makes me happy and shows if you care about your product, you, you know care about your users of that product, not just from a marketing standpoint, but they actually want to make the Internet better, which is also a pretty awesome goal, so go ahead and follow.
If you want to read back up on there and the last thing I’m going to comment on, because this is both in the comments on YouTube. People who reached out to me for messages and people who posted this in my forums know you just don’t use all of them. That seems to come up where people go. Can I just use some of all of them? You get the best of all the worlds. That’s exactly the opposite, you’re only as good as your worst resolver, and let me explain why and it kind of depends on your DNS system.
But if you have more than one DNS, if one resolver fails as in let’s say, we have a website, that’s blocked and that resolver fails because it was malware and quad nine blocked it, and you have the next one down in there and it does resolve it. You didn’t block an email where, so you want to pick one that works and, like I said undecided of free services, quad nine, just a simple easy drop for nine s in there and way you go.
They’ve got easy write-ups on how to set up in a lot of different situations for the paid services, Cisco umbrella. It seems to work. I do like the interface better if you just want me to offer, at my opinion, on DNS filter and, of course you know them and having the chief tech guy. That says something reach out, and maybe we’ll have a conversation later that we’ll do a YouTube article about about their product, their products, pretty cool.
We talked about some of the technologies they use. I not at liberty to discuss all of it, not that it’s you know real secret sauce here, but it’s just you know some of the stuff they doing is pretty cool um. I would roulette. I don’t want to try to put any words in your mouth and maybe they can talk about it because most of all, you can just learn from their website I’ll talk about what they do, but as they reel some more products, I may have some more conversations Ongoing with them, because they seem to be pretty slick and very reached out there, I mean companies that take the time to write these blog posts, there’s other companies.
I’ve talked about before that. I appreciate that take the time. These are often products we end up using. So you take the time to really do some community engagement and generally get out there. So go ahead and take time to read their write-up over a Dinah’s filter, great people over there and the forums are still open with more discussion on there, and I think a lot of people are getting. It is actually what makes me really happy.
I’r kind of understanding that one it’s very challenging and two there are some solutions out there that definitely we’re checking out and if you’re, just looking for that free service that you put to all your friends and you have a few extra dollars, throw some money at Those quad nine folks because doing some good work there and without a way to monetize your existence like a lot of other companies, do or an actual chart for charge business model.
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