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Wellness blogger claims: THIS turned her Hashimotos around | Ep61

Gundry podcast, you know you eat right, you make healthy choices and you still feel lousy. You’re, not alone. Not long ago, my guest Gina Hill suffered from migraine cystic acne, joint pain, fibromyalgia, Hashimoto’s, thyroiditis, pulsatile, tinnitus chronic fatigue and depression all while eating. What she thought was a healthy diet, but when Gina, who is actually a pharmacy, technician learned how to cut lectins from her diet, she was actually able to turn things around.

You know, as a result of all this, she created leptin free creations by Gina, a website and an Instagram account with tasty lectin free recipes and has even launched a lectin free revolution in her own community in a warrant in Virginia today. We’ll discuss what it takes to go: leptin, free and how to eat right without feeling deprived. I think that’s a really big issue for everyone. Embarking on this, so Gina welcome to the program and happy fiftieth birthday.

Thank you, dr. Gundry, it’s wonderful to be here. I just want to say: oh you, a debt of gratitude for everything that the plant paradox has done for me in my life. Well, it’s thank you so much! That’s actually why I do this and you actually flew out here to to share your experience with us, and I can’t thank you enough, and I can’t thank you enough for all you’re doing not only in your community but around the world with your website and your Instagram account because you’re you’re really trying to help people make this work.

I am I’m fantastically fascinated by this lectin free lifestyle and I enjoy the blogging good mm-hmm I mean. Were you a blogger before all this? No, no! It’s over. You said. Oh, my gosh there’s something to all this. What I got ta tell people I did and it just went okay, so you felt awful and we off-camera. Unlike your experience – and I know this was going on for 40 odd years. Yes, can you kind of walk back and give us a little scenario? What was happening? Yes, okay, so as a child growing up in Ohio, I had cornfields all around me and we had access to that for our meals and then as a family of eight.

On a meager income, we also had a lot of beans, non-pressure cooked beans with the corn and corn, bread. That was a main staple, so I did suffer from migraines as a child. I can remember being in bed for two to three days at a time with the migraine as a 10 or 11 year old and then came the chronic strep throat and sinus infections and ear infections. And of course the antibiotics were frequent as a child.

And then I and you had your tonsils out right yeah. So by the time I was 16 years old, I had such a chronic infection. The infection had went so far back in my throat, not only my tonsils, but a great deal of tissue removed behind my tonsils down into my throat as well. So that was at about the age of 16 and then the acne came afterwards mmm and I dealt with that until I was like done free now. Let me ask you: let me go back, what’s it like so you’re having migraines as a tenure, does anybody say? Oh, come on you’re a ten year old girl, whoa yeah boy, you’re, a drama queen.

What’s the you don’t have migraines, do people actually take you seriously or was that come on get out of bed? Let’s go, they did they took me seriously. They. I was actually told that the it is genetic that it was a genetic issue, my aunts and uncles, and my dad all had the headaches. So it was definitely a genetic issue, told ya, okay. Well, that’s good. At least somebody gave me a break okay, all right.

So then you so your tonsils are out, and you got lots of antibiotics with that and then the acne starts yes, and what what do people tell you about the acne? Oh, it was just hormonal or it’s the junk food that you were eating, but I didn’t eat a lot of junk food and but it was just something that I couldn’t find a solution to and they wanted to put you on a medication. Not at that point – and I was earlier and then I guess by my early 30s, I had come in contact with a tick.

I guess and I got Rocky Mountain spotted fever mm-hmm. It was devastating for me and I got fed more antibiotics and then along came the fibromyalgia. The migraines intensified a lot of face pain and ocular pain as well. It was very difficult to live in that state. It was probably one of the worst times of my life to live with the symptoms of the Rocky Mountain spotted fever. Oh, are you still in Ohio at this point or now we’re a military family.

My husband is a retired Marine, so the we lived in North Carolina, okay, where the presence of the Rocky Mountain spotted fever tic is large, there mm-hmm and so you’re getting lots of antibiotics for that, and are you actually working during all this? I was in school to be a dental assistant and I made it through the program dealing with the pain as well, and I ended up not doing anything with it, because I was just too sick and then from there.

I ended up with not too long after that the thyroid pain started, so I did feel this not in the tightness in my thyroid, and I just chose not to do anything about it. At that point, I just tried to ignore those. I really didn’t know what it was and did you, as you know, your doctor about all this or you’re. Just I’m not going to mention it. I got enough worries now I didn’t I didn’t mention it at all.

I just knew that it was a problem. It was a new issue and then by my late 30s, I had gotten the flu and was fed more antibiotics for the flu. Yes, yes, that works. Well, it destroyed me. This is when the mucus started. This is when it would became a real problem. For me, the mucus was the worst. I had severe post nasal drip when I slept it kept me awake. I was having to blow my nose frequently and I was clearing my throat and my chest when I consumed now that I know what it was lectins yeah.

So when I would consume my migraine, diet, the mucus would fill up in my lungs and I was having a hard time breathing and I was I was so sensitive to it all and it was um. It was very. It was not pleasant to be around me. Yeah we’re people telling you well, these are just allergies, a fever or it’s pollen things. Yes, you live in North Carolina, yes, yeah. I want to give you things for this. I had went to a pulmonologist, yes and they did testing, which I passed all of them.

They gave me uh no nasal spray and an inhaler that no one yeah okay, so the mucus formation stayed with me all the way from my late 30s. So when I went lectins free, it actually had gotten worse. But at that time, when mucus started, the doctor gave me prilosec, ah great razaw, purple pill, so we all know what that is. So by the time I had gotten the medication. The mucus problems had turned into really a severe burning and my sinuses.

So in my throat what had become raw – and my just – I never had a moment where my lungs felt clear, and so I did I was put on the prilosec and then by my early 40s. I had so much of the mucus formation that it was starting to affect my eustachian tube. So I was hearing my pulse and they call that pulsatile tinnitus, and that was just another issue, so they just kept compounding from there and then what happened or isn’t that enough.

Shortly after that, the pain in my throat had gotten so painful that I did go to the doctor. I’d never been to an endocrinologist before so I didn’t understand what was going on. They did a cat scan of my thyroid and told me I had Hashimoto’s. I had never heard of that before I didn’t understand what it was and that I was hypothyroid as well. I was given synthroid and which I ended up later, changing myself to armor.

I didn’t like the side effects of the sun, throwing and also at that visit with the endocrinologist. They discovered a nodule, and I didn’t know what that was either. It was in the right side of my thyroid. They kept a close eye on it and it grew at a fast rate by 2013, a head started, causing compression on my esophagus, and I was having a hard time breathing at night. Then what happened? I had a fire attack to me and partial partial.

I react to me and the Isthmus removed as well and then almost immediately the growth started in the left side. Aha, so I’m yet to do a follow-up since being lectin free to see how that knot was doing so I’ll. Let you know okay yeah, so I mean this is this: is you know you’re an unmitigated disaster, yes, and your your eating during all this time really hasn’t changed your eating? What you think is healthy, did anybody, or did you say gee? Could it be the food that I’m eating? No, nobody looked at food.

Nobody looked at me as a whole. No and then so. How did you find the plant paradox um? Actually, my husband had seen a commercial first and he’s very familiar with my illness. Isn’t he came home to show me the article and he couldn’t find it yeah, so he’s very disappointed that he couldn’t show me, but I found it the next day it was a banner across the YouTube. Ah, is this the food that is hurting you and then the smashed tomato that we’re all familiar with, and I played the article and played it again and played it again and ordered the book and it came to the house and I did not get off the Couch for two days, while I read that book nion and did light bulbs start going on, it went off when I knew it was the answer for me.

Yes, so alright, so you think you found the answer and you go. Oh my gosh. That’s that’s me in there there’s people just like me and did you go cold turkey, lectin, free or or what’d? You do. I went cold turkey and I did not have a problem with it at all. I came up with a plan. I knew that I had to open those pantry doors and I had three bags one for trash one for giveaway to my neighbor and if one for return it to the grocery store and see if I can get my money back – oh wow, okay, so that was My plan, it was a lot yeah.

It was a major part of my diet. That’s what I ate was grain and beans right, Ezekiel, bread, oh yeah, Zeki, Oh bread; yes, a shoe, cashew, nuts, yeah cashew cheese’s; yes, yes, zekiel, bread, it’s interesting people and I you know. I try to document this in all my books with research studies that have been done, but sprouted grains are actually higher in lectin content than unspread grains and one of the interesting things is plant doesn’t want its babies to be eaten, which seems obvious, but none of Us think about that and the newborn baby, the little sprouted grain is actually at its most vulnerable and so the plant.

Actually, the baby produces more lectins at that point. To dissuade the animal from eating, and actually just as inside alfalfa sprouts, are some of the most toxic foods that you can eat because of their incredibly high lectin content. So sorry about that yeah I was having it every day: yeah yeah with peanut butter. Oh yes, yeah, and this is all healthy, parvo healthy. Hopefully, for you and you’re going.

I am doing everything right and you know I am the most miserable human being. I know I was I just I got to the point by the time I was 47. I just didn’t want to be around anymore, just questioning why I wanted to be here so at that point about right before I found the plant paradox, I was 47 and I had visited many doctors. I was seeing a pulmonologist right, the orthopedic for the pain and my knee and my hips had gotten so bad yeah.

We didn’t talk about that. So now, you’ve got hip and knee plate pain, yes yeah. So I was dealing with that. I didn’t think I was too old yeah, I didn’t look it, but I know people saying oh well, you’re just getting old. Ah they did, but I didn’t want to accept it. I knew there was another option for me. So the Nick no knee pain, the Payne visiting the orthopedic, the pulmonologist still for the phlegm yeah, the endocrinologist again right before I went plant paradox and they did another endoscopy and that’s when they found a stomach, polyp yeah.

I have that one, a single stomach polyp. So that kind of scared me a little bit I’ve seen a Rheumatologist, so I got an official diagnosis of fibromyalgia and prescription for more medication. I think the gabapentin yeah yeah, I didn’t what the gabapentin do for you or it made me very dizzy and nauseous. I just wanted to lay around. I didn’t like that. I think I took that twice and I said this isn’t for me.

I have to find another option, so what okay, so you might cold turkey, and so what happened? What is what’s the first thing, you know great things, no more mucus. How fast did that happen immediately? Yeah, I’m extremely lectin sensitive. I can smell a white glass of wine and I have mucus formation neat. Yes, yes, I can detect when the restaurant is lying. To me immediately, I know that that’s not olive oil, the mucus formation happens and so right away, no mucus.

It didn’t have to blow my nose. I wasn’t going through a box of tissues a week. Wasn’t clearing my throat, which allowed my throat to heal so no mucus, wonderful, I could sleep at night. I wasn’t having post nasal drip within three days. Guess what no more headache amazing! So not just the headache when you deal with fibromyalgia headaches, it can be very ocular and the face pain that I was having so into my cheek bones and my sinuses.

All of that that I was dealing with within three days was gone now. This has got to be a placebo effect. You, you read a book that says everything’s going to be fine. If you stop eating these things and lo and behold, everything was fine, it was. It did exactly what you said. It was going to do so so and but you’ve obviously tested on that on yourself. So when a mischief food enters your mouth, maybe at a restaurant, for instance your you can, you know instantly instantly instantly, yes and so you’re, not you’re.

Sure you’re not crazy, know that you, this isn’t you’re making this up, I’m not crazy. I’ve even tested it and my husband will vouch to be in a restaurant and then call the waiter over and say I need to know if this is not olive oil. Yes, it’s olive oil ma’am, it is all of us. I need you to check on the bottle and he comes back and he says no, it does say it’s a blend to blend of olive oil and canola oil.

My body detects that it’s it’s great, I’m glad. I have this built-in system now you’re. Yes, now I’m glad it’s it’s very beneficial. I think everybody should eat those lectin free lifestyle. Well, I think that’s a really that’s a really good point and maybe a little stop for a second and talk about that. A couple years ago and the plant paradox came out, I was lecturing at Harvard actually nerve health and brain health, and one of a distinguished professor said well you’re, saying that everybody should you know he looked in free, and I said yes, that’s correct.

He said well, what’s what’s wrong, with the advice that everything should be in moderation and isn’t that a better argument – and I said well, I have nothing wrong with that. If you want moderate arthritis, moderate heart disease, moderate dementia, great – and I said – but do you really want? You know moderate arthritis and heart disease, of course not now and I think what’s what’s really interesting you’re.

Obviously, what I described is a canary yes and the canary in the coal mine. Yes, and you know, bless you for being a canary. My Canaries have taught me most everything I know about all this. Yes, so you guys react to these things lectins instantaneously, so you feel the things that I and now others have suggested are going on in all of us, but we just unfortunately, don’t feel them the way you do and we can use the word clairvoyant.

I don’t think that’s right, but you you, you feel these things. I call it hypersensitive yeah yeah yeah. I think that’s a that’s a great way yeah and I think what what you guys have taught me is particularly now with really modern blood tests. Looking at leaky gut looking at inflammation looking at what’s happening in the brain on arteries, we can see that when we take lectins away from people that we can, even if they don’t feel the difference, most people do, but even if they don’t feel it, we can See it on a blood test I’ll, give you a quick example.

Yesterday we I saw a woman actually enter in her late 60s, who have had Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. She doesn’t anymore and we do this test called a pulse test and I have no relationship with them. Pu LS that really looks at markers for your chance of a heart attack in the next five years, and one of the markers I’ve written about is called il 16 and I all 16 is an autoimmune attack on the inside of our blood vessels and I’ve.

Given two papers that I suggest that it’s lectins that caused this and when lectins are taken out of the diet, we see il 16 drop dramatically, and so this woman were looking at her pulse test and her score for having a heart attack. The next five years drops in half and we compare her first one with this one in her il 16 drop dramatically, and I said, look at that you’re, you know your risk of having a heart attack went from remarkably high six months later.

You now have minimal risk of a heart attack. Did you you know, and you didn’t feel the fact that your risk for a heart attack went down that wasn’t evident, but we can see it on a blood test. So bless you, for you, know, teaching all of us number one, but you’re, not crazy, and that you’re just you know, you’re, really good you’re a Geiger counter. Okay! So that’s so so you okay! So now all of a sudden, so your acne clears yes.

So after three days the headache cleared and then a week that gave my throat enough time to heal, I didn’t have the raw throat anymore, so that was a bonus for me to not have to deal with that soreness and gosh. I remember the day. Three months later, this is so exciting I’ll, never forget this day I went to clipped my nails and I had a wonderful, beautiful line of demarcation across my fingernails, and I got to looking what would kind of confuse me at first.

I had never seen anything like this before I could see the dead tissue up front and the new healthy, shiny tissue in the back, and so they looked down to look at my toes, and I saw the same thing on my toes. That’s when I knew my gut was healing and my microbiome was thriving, so I ran downstairs to tell my husband look, look, look. This is barking. I’r do I going to do this. There rest of my life – and I was so excited to see that that was healing.

That was proof for me. It was he excited about. He is so excited. Yes, he’s been very supportive of me always especially with the plant paradox. I couldn’t have done this without him. Actually, he sees the difference, especially when, at the point of being lectin free after the thyroid supplementation, I think I added about six months and to being lectin free. I could just still feel that pain in my throat and I knew I needed some thyroid supplementation, so I had implemented some supplements and then after I did that really the depression lifted to have the the support that I needed for thyroid and he was excited to See that change in me the depression, a little more friendlier and just all around a better person to be around, so it really affects you when you’re sick, it’s hard.

What you can put people through well and pain is one of the most depressing things. There is particularly if you don’t see a light at the end of the tunnel, all right, so you you see the difference we talked before off-camera. You know. One of my favorite teachings from Hippocrates was was about this green life force energy, yes, and you obviously as hokey as it sounds, have experienced this green life force energy, yes, so fascinating.

To feel how your body can feel when you remove the external forces that are causing the damage to your body, to have that energy to feel so powerful and I felt powerful and I blogged about my power and I’ll. Never forget the day that I wanted. A bicycle: now I have energy. Let’s go do this, so we got a bicycle and I posted about that too. So yeah because you didn’t want to get on a bicycle because you didn’t have any energy get up and go yeah yeah, so yeah the green, my force, energy was with me and I loved it yeah.

You know it sounds hokey and I you know, even as I was writing about it in the plant paradox. I said boy. This is really hokey, it’s so touchy-feely California, but you know Hippocrates. Actually, who was the father of Medicine, and he I learned from him that all disease begins in the gut and all disease ends in the gut. But again I think it’s worth mentioning for people who haven’t heard this or having read the book.

Hippocrates said that all creatures have this intrinsic desire ability for perfect health, that’s part of our nature and he called it. The green lifeforce energy, that’s the translation from Greek, and he felt that there were external forces that were preventing this expression of green lifeforce energy and that a physician was supposed to find what those external forces were and remove them. And once those forces were removed that the body, the green lifeforce energy would heal, you know the body itself, and so a physician was just supposed to be a detective, and I think if there’s one thing that I’ve taken heart thanks to people like you is I’m Just a detective and you and everybody who’s listening to us – has the power to heal themselves.

Once we get these little mischief makers away from yes, those invaders all right, so you start a blog to tell everybody hey guys. You know this actually works. I was just posting some food and before I knew it, I was an inspiration to others and they were telling me you know you make this so much easier, you’re so inspiring. Thank you for all of your articles, and everybody knows I like to include music with my little stories, and so I just make it fun and I don’t ever claim to be the best cook, but I really I love everyone.

Everyone knows that about me and just try to inspire others to stick with this, because it really is life-changing. Are you a musician or you just like music? No, I just like music. I think when I’m in the cook and cook in the kitchen cooking for a long period of time, music or a doctor, gunnery podcast helps pass the time. So no and I like to make my articles fun, so I always include the music. Yes, so what are you favorite? Lectin free recipes? You got Annie.

I do. I think one of my favorites is one of your favorites. So yes, the mango green mango and pear salad, oh yeah yeah, the cabbage, it’s wonderful! I love that one and so simple and basic and in the beginning, is the the raw mushroom soup. Oh yeah. Yes, I love that one and one that I created myself you’ll have to try. This penny you’ll have to make those. I got ta Megan, I’m going to make it. I created a recipe she’s.

My prep chef is that right from the heart defense product, the Gundry MD heart defense product is wonderful to bake with. So I made some Gundry MD heart defense bars, they’re delicious. It’s on my website: alright, lectin, free creations, calm! Yes, and have you instagrammed about that as well? Okay, so we can find any other spot? Yes, okay! Yes, all right, very good good, so you work at a health food store.

Now I do I work at the natural marketplace in Warrington Virginia, it’s a wonderful magical, store, owned and operated by Shelley Ross for the last thirty years. Yes, we’re a wonderful, organic health, food store with clean supplements and then organic deli, upstairs on a wonderful staff and you actually have a lectin free area. That’s correct, Shelley is amazing and was very open and receptive to my idea.

When I came to her, she was already familiar with dr. Gundry and the plant paradox. I think she was using your products. Oh yes, so I told her my idea what I wanted to do and of course she gave me a thumbs up. Let’s do it right away and I had to move some things around, make room for the lectin free groceries and I worked with our administrative staff. She did a wonderful job at creating lectin free stickers to put on the shelf tags and ordered the books was able to keep them in the store and work with the customers when they came in.

I worked personally with individuals. We have a lot of sick people. More to Warrenton, with all of the same issues that I have so I’m very, very familiar with them all. So, of course, anybody with those issues – and there was a lot of them – I was able to direct them towards the plant. Paradox show them the groceries and so good somebody who’s, not Warrenton Virginia, who had wants to get some lectin free products into their health.

Food store, or even their grocery store, how? How would they go about it? How did you do this? Oh definitely. Every store has a grocery buyer. I would contact that grocery buyer directly and take your yes list with you. Maybe even take the plant paradox book with you and tell them that this is just. This is a worldwide movement. It’s not just for me personally. There are millions of people with success.

Stories live in the plant, paradox lifestyle and I just request them and they they’re willing to work with you to bring in the compliant groceries, and I would also I’ve already done this. I’r talking with thrive market to please put a lectin free tab in your search engine, good for you. Yes, so everybody out there contact thrive, market yeah and you bring up an interesting point. This is not conjecture.

There are millions of people who have the look who followed this, so this is not little. This is not. You know. A little Gina in Warrington Virginia now are the person who is walking into a grocery store in Des Moines Iowa now this is this is a huge movement and good for you for, fortunately, thank you, alright, okay, you, I know you’ve done this, but people write you Or question you: how do you start implementing this deaf? Can somebody do this without having me for trash cans and stuff? Yes, but it’s very important to read the book as a whole so that you can understand why you want to do this? If you don’t read the book you’re going to be asking food bloggers, what can’t I have in phase one? Well, did you get the book, so it’s very important to read the book in its entirety to get your.

Why and then, once you have your, why it’s easier to stay with program and then also to really it helps to blog about it to journal about it, so get your journal and take photographs so take photographs of the things that you’re hoping that’ll change. I wish I had done that, for instance, my eyebrows, I people with Hashimoto’s I’m going to seeing the third outer part of their eyebrow, and I have that it came back.

So I had a lot of thinness in my scalp and that is starting to grow back as well. Now, at my ferritin level is at a normal range, I would have taken better photographs of my skin the before a before and after so and yeah. You have gorgeous skin and you’re, trying to tell me that this was not you of a few years ago. No, absolutely not. I had deep creases on both sides of my cheeks really that ran several inches and the the age spots.

A lot of the age spots are gone now. Age spots go away, yeah, you’re, actually, D, aging, that’s right! Yes, come on. I have been told yes, and I mean you literally had cystic acne. Yes, so I’m dealing with the scarring I’m using a derma roller right now and some vitamin C repair serum. I mainly had it in my chin area. It didn’t affect me in my cheeks, but I’m dealing with some scarring. Yes, mm-hmm great, I mean you’re, like you know, like dr.

Kerry walls who was basically was in a wheelchair, as a physician, doing all the right things and on multiple medications for MS and told well, you know you have progressive. Ms, and you know this. Is your life and now, of course she can ride a bicycle and it’s by eating. You know nine cups of vegetables a day and I’ve convinced her that those vegetables shouldn’t have lectins and them, and I think she – and I agree about that but yeah.

This is your living example that there are foods that are killing you, or at least making your life miserable and removing those foods gives you a whole new life. Yes, yes, you follow whether lectin Free People for inspiration. I do I love them. You want to mention. Yes, first, everybody is wonderful, they all have wonderful recipes. I think the the some of my favorites our course are known as Stewart plant.

Paradox farmer, no, no yeah! Yes, wonderful! I can’t wait until she decides to make a farmhouse cookbook. I love her recipe she’s. I used to inspire her in the beginning. Now she inspires me. That’s great yeah we’ve become pretty good friends, Instagram friends and made a couple phone calls from Canada to Canada and then of course, Ralph and Steve. The plant paradox boys or my ex Inc, always enjoined seen their travel photos and, of course, then lectin free mama, of course, wonderful website, with tips for beginners great recipes that are simple and easy.

I followed her from the beginning. I enjoy making many of her meals and then, of course, I’m locked in free gourmet, Christine look what she’s done with all of that sourdough bread that she’s got going on over there. No, I can’t wait to get into that. When I get back home right, yeah yeah, you know the community obviously keeps growing and growing yes, and you know this is this: is a movement and it it’s real and the wonderful thing you know if I, if I look back it’s like all of you guys Who have embraced this? I give you guys so much credit for okay, I’m I’m not going to keep this for myself Island, I’m going to you know, help others and obviously that’s why I changed my career to do this cuz.

You know think about all these sites. Now that all the people you’re helping and that this is something that people can do and yeah take some work. But then I tell people if you’re going to hate me for two weeks and then you’re going to probably start liking me, but it does take some work and it takes for you. It was a leap of faith. Oh it’s like okay. You know everything’s out, I’m going to do this, but the neat thing, particularly for you, you know three days, your mucus is gone.

Yes, what’s with that? Yes, I wrote about a guy who helped his wife, it’s actually in the plant paradox. She had rheumatoid arthritis and, after her first pregnancy and he’s put on these drugs right, and she wanted to have another baby and knew there’s no way she was going to bring a baby into this world. While on these immunosuppressive medications, we work with her. Her husband was credibly supported and a very vigorous Bureau guy and he says: okay, I’m all-in we’re going to we’re going to eat the exact same way saw them after six months and she you know I’ve written about her.

She just had another beautiful baby and it was never flared, but he comes in after with the first visit and he says: hey Doc, you know, you know, I’m I’ve lost 15 pounds I didn’t need to, but you know I’m so buff now, but I got ta. Tell you: I’ve had chronic sinus congestion, all my life and my sinuses ablated and in taken antibiotics, and that was just me. He says I got ta tell you, you know you should tell people your sinuses will clear up nice and he said no.

No, no. You should really tell them the sinuses clear up. I said yes, you’re you’re right yeah, you know that’s your sinuses will clear up. Yes, yes, I do, however, think that I’m one of those, your Canaries, that shouldn’t have sheep or goat cheese as well. I’r glad you brought that up now there are. We now have these really cool testing for dairy sensitivity, among other things, and there are a subset of my patients who react to casein a1.

They react, casing a2 and they react away and just throw it out. You’re, probably one of the reactors and don’t there’s no human need for cheese. As you know, there’s there was an interesting book years ago. Women there’s these really cool opioid, like compounds in cheese that go right, particularly to women’s brains and go happy-happy happy-happy, and so there is an addictive quality to cheese. Just like there is an addictive quality to her head because of the same.

It’s called morphine’s, kco morphine’s, but yeah. So just give cheese. The booth, it’s okay, it’s okay! Yes, okay! We have got to wrap it up, but in the meantime you have some questions. For me, I do all right, let’s hear it all right, so it turns out that I’m homozygous for the MTHFR gene mutation or variation, the mother-effer gene. Yes, it is. Does that mean that I am or can be more liked insensitive than somebody that’s heterozygous or non carrier? You know I a lot of people particularly who write in this area want to kind of blame everything.

That’s ever happened to them, whether it’s depression, anxiety, addiction on the fact that they’re, either homozygous or even heterozygous for the MTHFR mutation. There is some interesting evidence that if you look at family histories of these mutations, particularly for the double mutations that there is an increased anxiety, depression, ADHD, bipolar schizophrenia and drug abuse and alcohol – what’s cool about this – is you can fix this with methyl b12 methylcobalamin and Methylfolate and one of the things I keep telling people you got to get the sublingual form of methyl cobalamin methyl b12 okay, so many people with this mutation also lack, what’s called intrinsic factor e.

That allows you to absorb b12 from your intestines. If you put it some way, well, it’ll bypass it and I measure b12 levels and every human being every three to six months, and I know exactly who are the ones who are putting it under the tongue. I know exactly who are chewing it or sucking on it. I know exactly who’s swallowing it and when we actually make them put it under their tongue and their levels come on.

Thank you for telling me that, because I chew on it, don’t you wonder: you’re, okay it’ll actually make a difference. Okay, yeah! We can see it it’s fascinating, so my dad died at 49 of heart disease. So once I carry both genes, the MTHFR, I imagined he had the one that leaves you susceptible to heart: disease, yeah. But again it’s fixable good news yeah. This is fixable problem, yes, okay. My next question is when how have a living a lectin free lifestyle affect the stomach polyp, so we’ve had actually a number of people with not only stomach Pollock’s but gallbladder polyps and they knock on wood, have resolved with going left and free.

Don’t have a time period for it. We see most people with polyps totally different subject, have very high insulin levels and you may have never had your fasting insulin level measured, but insulin is one of the biggest drivers to polyp formation, particularly in the colon or in the stomach. So, let’s see what happens you? Don’t you don’t have to go? Have your stomach, the polyp removed? You should because of the potential for a polyp to have precancerous changes.

You should at least reading this and maybe even have a biopsy of it, but we’re not dispensing medical advice on this program right. Okay, all right! What supplements would you recommend to help me with the only issue I still have left, so I have a little bit of muscle, cramping and my calves and my laugh feet. Mm-Hmm and muscle recovery issues and I’ve tried doing the magnesium and potassium the branched-chain amino acids.

Mm-Hmm and have you even use the magnesium oil spray? Yes, okay, and that doesn’t help you yeah most people who are getting muscle cramps who go on our program are doing it because they’re, eliminating simple sugars and one of the interesting things is. We store sugar in our muscles in the form of glycogen and when we eliminate sugars from our diet, which the plain paradox does we use up all the glycogen and our muscles and the glycogen is stored with a water molecule and it’s stored with magnesium and with Potassium and so those actually leave with the glycogen, and so when somebody calls me or one of my patients says.

Oh my gosh, I got the worst cramps in my legs, you know at night and it’s waking me up and I’ll go. This is great news. You are following the program and they look at me like what do you mean? You know I’m having cramps, I said yeah. They were actually eliminating sugar from your diet. One thing I think about is you can? Actually you don’t have a weight problem? You can actually add more resistance.

Starches have some more millet, has some more sorghum and see. If that helps you, and even particularly into your evening meal yeah see what happens. You know all right. Let me know. Thank you all right. Well, listen! I can’t thank you enough for coming all this way and is it and thank you for everything. You’re doing people need to know, and particularly you know, I get on my horse about this. Women need to know that the you guys aren’t crazy.

These are real things and you’ve got to keep asking for. Why is this happening to me and you’ve been through the gamut of all these specialists, and I know from personal experience. No one ever asked you about what are you eating yeah and so you, you got ta find someone who will listen to you and if nobody listened to, you then go to your Instagram, go to your website and you know go to all the other sites and We’re all in this together and thank you and on all your other fellow bloggers for doing all this bigger things to come exactly yeah yeah.

This is truly a movement. Yes, it is a movement yeah. It has to come. You know it has to come from the ground level the government’s not going to help us the insurance company’s not going to help us medical schools, we’re not going to help us, and certainly the drug companies are not going to help us so yeah good. For you. Thank you right. So that’s it. I hope you enjoyed this and really go. Go, find her Instagram account.

What’s the website again lectin free creation.Com and on instagram i’m at lectin free creations, all right, you heard it check her out check out all our other great bloggers, and I will see you next week on the dr. Gentry. Podcast see you thanks. You


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